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Koperdraad
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 Posted: 12 Oct 2014, 21:25 |
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I am looking for a amp for the bakkie something small in size (Space is limited), but something that can Handel a 10"/12" sub, pair of 6x9 Pioneer 600w max 5 ways 100w normal, and 2 pairs of Phoenix Gold 5" speakers Original deck  Already bought the 6x9 No Amp No 5" Speakers No 10"/12" sub Any ideas on a amp?? 4ch 4200w , 4ch 6000w ??? remember the size Dankie ouens _________________   10 Ford Bantam XLT 1.6 i
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DJ7
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Posted: 13 Oct 2014, 08:59 |
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Sounds like you going to need a decent 5 channel amp then. 4 can work, but will mean you going to run your mids and 6x9s off 2 channels which is going to compromise sound quality a bit.
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Koperdraad
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Posted: 13 Oct 2014, 19:33 |
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Thanks DJ
Or only the 6x9 and 1 set off mids on 2 channels ,but what amp do I go for? Ice Power is very nice but too big!!
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Koperdraad
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Posted: 13 Oct 2014, 21:42 |
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DJ7
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Posted: 14 Oct 2014, 10:31 |
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Budget is important then. Because the Phoenix gold is really good and will be small and so will the polk audio, but they are also more pricy.
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Koperdraad
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Posted: 14 Oct 2014, 21:42 |
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Let say will spend up to R2000
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DJ7
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Posted: 16 Oct 2014, 10:44 |
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Koperdraad wrote: Let say will spend up to R2000 Go to a sound place and speak to them.
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high-knee
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Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 15:03 |
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That Reference Audio Tivo T100.4 at Soundmatch is more than sufficient for your 6x9's which are rated at 100 RMS. The T100.4 does 95 RMS at 4 ohm. And in bridge mode should do well over 200 RMS if nto close to 300 to run a 10 or 12 inch sub. The Tivo amps are tiny but are really decent amps. The Phoenix Gold Z500 at Soundmatch is also a really good option. 75 rms at 4 ohm for 6x9's and 250 rms bridged for a sub. Also at Soundmatch. The Phoenix gold is the size of a 12 inch sub in terms of length and breadth. The Tivo I think is smaller. R1700 for Tivo and R1800 for Z500.
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high-knee
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Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 15:08 |
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But then you must run the mids off the deck. 5 channel amps are expensive. Might well buy two amps for thr price of a 5 channel and the 5 channels are usually big as well....there is also a Kenwood amp for R1400 on Takealot.com. a bit bigger in size and less powerful than the other two but still suffiecient for both 6x9's and a sub. 60 rms at 4 per channel and 180 rms bridged. May I ask why you wanna run four 5 inch mids in a Bantam?
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Koperdraad
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Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 20:34 |
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Thanks High-knee for your help I will go to soundmatch and check it out! Because the bantams come with four standard 5" speakers in the doors and behind the doors, but its k@k 5" speakers!!
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high-knee
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Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 21:23 |
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Its all good CU draad. And I see, but ja I put a pair of 6.5 inch Phoenix Gold mids in a Hilux bakkie on the standard deck was already a huge improvement over stock so the four 5 inchers will sound nice despite being powered by the deck cause they have relatively high sensitivity so so you dont need much power for them. Really nice brand Phoenix Gold.
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Sub - Audison Voce AV 12
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Koperdraad
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Posted: 20 Oct 2014, 20:29 |
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Thanks I will give the Phoenix Gold a try!! They sound like decent speakers! Just a Q how do u split the RCA cables if u have 1 cable coming from the deck to a 4channel amp? I know u use a splitter but do u put right to right right or do u put right to left and right?  or does it not matter _________________ 10 Ford Bantam XLT 1.6 i
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high-knee
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Posted: 20 Oct 2014, 21:42 |
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Yes it is. I would usually put the left rca splitter on the 1st and 3rd channel inputs and the right rca splitter on the 2nd and 4th. Then run the left 6x9 off the 1st channel and right 6x9 off the 2nd channel. Sub will obviously be bridged over 3rd and 4th so it will get both left and right which is what you want.
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Sub - Audison Voce AV 12
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Posted: 20 Oct 2014, 21:47 |
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this thing is bang for buck https://www.soundmatch.co.za/Products/P ... dgable-ampi have the D4000 monoblock these amps are flippin small
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Koperdraad
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Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 19:20 |
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high-knee wrote: Yes it is. I would usually put the left rca splitter on the 1st and 3rd channel inputs and the right rca splitter on the 2nd and 4th. Then run the left 6x9 off the 1st channel and right 6x9 off the 2nd channel. Sub will obviously be bridged over 3rd and 4th so it will get both left and right which is what you want. thanks  _________________ 10 Ford Bantam XLT 1.6 i
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high-knee
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Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 20:05 |
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All good bru. Glad I could help. The Targa amps I haven't worked often with but people say good things about them. Good power from them and great for flexing the neighbourhood windows. Quality wise the Reference Audio and especially the Phoenix Gold will be superior. But with a clean unclipped signal you can go very far....the Targa will also work though. No doubt.
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Amp - MTX Audio Thunder 81000D monoblock
Sub - Audison Voce AV 12
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crispy boss
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Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 20:33 |
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my main reason for going the Targa route is for the size
that d4000 is as small as an A5 sheet of paper and ripped my 12.
recently purchased a polk audio 8" marine sub but havent had chance to get everything installed
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Koperdraad
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Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 21:39 |
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crispy boss wrote: my main reason for going the Targa route is for the size
that d4000 is as small as an A5 sheet of paper and ripped my 12.
recently purchased a polk audio 8" marine sub but havent had chance to get everything installed will check this amp out Thanks, Just waiting on pay day  _________________ 10 Ford Bantam XLT 1.6 i
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high-knee
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Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 22:30 |
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crispy boss wrote: my main reason for going the Targa route is for the size
that d4000 is as small as an A5 sheet of paper and ripped my 12.
recently purchased a polk audio 8" marine sub but havent had chance to get everything installed I see. Im in no way brandbashing Targa. Its like you said bang for buck its up there. Their stuff are pretty solid and can take a lot of abuse. I did a box for a friend's friend with a MM12. Really nice woofer and gets really good output and sounds nice too although the amp running the sub did not do it justice(was an old Calibra). Would love to hear how crisp and tight that MM8 plays on a nice amp so hope you get it installed soon! But sorry back to topic....let us know what you decide to get CU draad. _________________ 2003 Corsa Classic 1.6 Elegance
Engine:Stock
Sound:
Headunit - Alpine CDE-9874E
Front - Standard Mids with some tweeters
Amp - MTX Audio Thunder 81000D monoblock
Sub - Audison Voce AV 12
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crispy boss
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Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 07:04 |
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i missed the brandbashing, lol.
mybru i am the least brand aware person here, hahaha
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