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Slv Gsi
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Posted: 15 May 2013, 18:21 |
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Hey peoples, I'm not such a sound foendie. So I got a set of 6x9 - Pioneer - 400W 3 way's. That's runningdirectly from my deck (very bad one - came with car). So I got a Ice Power 3000W Sub, so want to know what amp must I get to pump that thing at full potential. My buddy told me a monoblock.Mids in doors a must? Options please & what's a decent head unit to invest in.
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Koperdraad
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Posted: 15 May 2013, 19:17 |
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Ice Power Amp (Pro Series) 3200w 4ch and the u can put your 6x9 `s and sub on it!!
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Posted: 15 May 2013, 19:40 |
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I was running an Ice Power Pro Series Amp Monoblock 3900 watt on twin 1400 Watt 12" Pioneer DVC's a few years back, those pumped quite well.
I think a 3200w may be a little small for a 3000 watt sub.
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Koperdraad
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Posted: 15 May 2013, 19:53 |
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3900w can also work 
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Slv Gsi
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Posted: 15 May 2013, 20:15 |
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Awesome dudes, now I know what to look for. 3900 amp it is then, lokl. Mid's? What is a decent deck to run? Sony GT560U (think that's the model name). Its a 52x4. Buddy ran it on his & gave decent sound
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Koperdraad
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Posted: 15 May 2013, 20:37 |
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Koperdraad
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Posted: 15 May 2013, 20:40 |
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Pioneer Mids, 280w 4ways and Sony Deck (GT630ui)
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Slv Gsi
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Posted: 15 May 2013, 20:44 |
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Thanks a lot man for the help. Now me know what to get.
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Nathan_K UTE
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Posted: 16 May 2013, 16:17 |
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not to confuse u but i would recommend a JVC Head unit. Had a Sony GT490U 3 years ago, swopped to JVC last year. the difference was audible. The JVC Line output (The signal that goes to your amps ) is just superior (4.8Volts more is better) to the Sony decks ( 2 Volts). Just my 2 cents
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DJ7
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Posted: 16 May 2013, 17:47 |
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Ok, so 1st things first. What is the RMS rating of the sub? Because that is important to know before I can give you advice on which amp to get.
Secondly the pricier Pioneers have 9v pre-outs and also have atleast 3, 1 for sub, and the other 2 for front and rear. So ja, I would rather get a Pioneer than a JVC or Sony. I have owned atleast 1 of each of those decks.
Its abit hard to give advice also because we need to know your budget, but ja, that is just my 2c. Also check which ohms the sub will run at as that will also help to choose an amp.
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Posted: 16 May 2013, 21:56 |
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Sorry for the jack Slv Gsi but @DJ7 if u compare a JVC KD-R416 , Cheapest JVC i could find @ R899 has 5V Outputs to the priciest Pioneer i could find a DEH-80PRS @ R4500 also 5V and the second priciest pioneer DEH-X9550BT @R2500 also 5V . Any cheaper pioneer is running 3 or 4 volt line outputs.
I used to be a pioneer fan but couldn't find a pioneer with high quality high voltage outputs that compare to the JVC price wise and sound wise.
could u perhaps gimme a model number for a 9V Pioneer deck as i'm looking to up my quality on my system that is running 5V at the moment. and i know JVC dont make 9V decks.
@Slv Gsi Whats your budget? Whats your Sub Impedance and whats the RMS of your sub? also u need to match the amp with the sub by looking at impedance Etc also a monoblock would be better power for your sub.
i could recommend a ice power 4000W monoblock @R1499 Specs: ICE POWER 4000.1 MONOBLOCK AMPLIFIER RMS@4OHMS -300W, -RMS@2OHMS-750W, RMS@1OHM-1500W
that should be just over enough power to play your sub leka loud daily.
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Slv Gsi
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Posted: 16 May 2013, 22:58 |
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Wow that's a lot talk that I jack about, lmj. But from what I can read on the sub... Just states the below: 3000W Max 400W NOM IPS-312D4 4(horse shoe - ohm) DVC 83oz. Double stacked magnets Double Aimants DE 2.4kg
That's about all info I know or could read. Budget wise.. I'm looking at spending about 3-4k ish on the sound... Over time. Not once off, ha ah... But I will take what you foendies said & make work of that.
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Posted: 16 May 2013, 23:09 |
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do you want perfect clarity or do you want rattling windows 5 doors down the road from your house?
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DJ7
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Posted: 17 May 2013, 08:14 |
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Nathan_K UTE wrote: Sorry for the jack Slv Gsi but @DJ7 if u compare a JVC KD-R416 , Cheapest JVC i could find @ R899 has 5V Outputs to the priciest Pioneer i could find a DEH-80PRS @ R4500 also 5V and the second priciest pioneer DEH-X9550BT @R2500 also 5V . Any cheaper pioneer is running 3 or 4 volt line outputs.
I used to be a pioneer fan but couldn't find a pioneer with high quality high voltage outputs that compare to the JVC price wise and sound wise.
could u perhaps gimme a model number for a 9V Pioneer deck as i'm looking to up my quality on my system that is running 5V at the moment. and i know JVC dont make 9V decks.
@Slv Gsi Whats your budget? Whats your Sub Impedance and whats the RMS of your sub? also u need to match the amp with the sub by looking at impedance Etc also a monoblock would be better power for your sub. i could recommend a ice power 4000W monoblock @R1499 Specs: ICE POWER 4000.1 MONOBLOCK AMPLIFIER RMS@4OHMS -300W, -RMS@2OHMS-750W, RMS@1OHM-1500W
that should be just over enough power to play your sub leka loud daily. Ok, I have a Pioneer DEH 9450UB deck, and see the latest Pioneers are now 4v outputs. My previous 1 that was stolen was 9v pre-outs. Ok, so while we on this topic, please explain how this helps with the clarity. The Pioneer has an advanced sound engine as well as equalizer built in to help with clarity. JVC's have also never been renowned for clarity. How many SQL cars do you see using JVC decks? Ask yourself why. The part in red is kinda what I asked for in my previous post. 
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Posted: 17 May 2013, 08:27 |
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 experts at work and im loving it, however im JVC dronk.Dean if i c u in the near future remind me to give u a demo out of the NP200 
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Posted: 17 May 2013, 08:41 |
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Vauxoholic wrote: :popcorn2: experts at work and im loving it, however im JVC dronk.Dean if i c u in the near future remind me to give u a demo out of the NP200  Arent you stieking uit tonight? If so, then we can make so tonight mos. 
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Vauxoholic
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Posted: 17 May 2013, 09:17 |
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DJ7 wrote: Vauxoholic wrote: :popcorn2: experts at work and im loving it, however im JVC dronk.Dean if i c u in the near future remind me to give u a demo out of the NP200  Arent you stieking uit tonight? If so, then we can make so tonight mos.  ooo waite its a jvc with pioneer chappies lol so scrape that thought Dean. Have to babysit tonight.
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Slv Gsi
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Posted: 17 May 2013, 09:24 |
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 Lokl...can't a bit of both? Decent clarity but with atleast 2 doors down window rattle? If possible, lokl. I'm liking the comments, keep them comin dudes. The more info a get. The better to make a decision. 
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Posted: 17 May 2013, 11:14 |
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Ok so the sound engine does play a big role in sound quality. It's called the digital to analog conversion process. In this process the hardware and the Software is important in decoding ur digital cd or mp3 and I believe both jvc and pioneer is more or Less on par with each other. From their the output to ur speakers that wil be ur MOSFET 45w outputs This same signal wil be sent via your line outputs to your amps. This signal is in positive and negative Power pulses. So the more voltage u have the more space their is for ur unit to describe the signal I.e clarity. Just be sure to check what voltage ur amp can handle bcoz if the voltage is to high and the amp can only take 4 volts and u giving at 9 it wil be distortion I.e no clarity
@slv GSI U can have both. I'm running 4 10" subs and they moer k@k hard but my mids can keep up with them to give well ballenced clear sound Come to the next hookup and il demonstrate. Dean and a lot of the other guys have heard me play.
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Posted: 17 May 2013, 11:29 |
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got pics ?
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